tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post8409997934832155380..comments2024-03-28T02:23:44.367-05:00Comments on Pacifist Viking: National Thanksgiving League (on a lost season)Pacifist Vikinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16630996018868040440noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-42389177669014931322010-11-25T09:27:58.743-06:002010-11-25T09:27:58.743-06:00Anon at Nine Nineteen wrote:
Draft could be intere...Anon at Nine Nineteen wrote:<br />Draft could be interesting with SOOOOOO many needs.<br /><br />And yet SOOOOOOOO few draft choices.Plinthy the Middlingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-46669001251463478372010-11-23T15:00:37.082-06:002010-11-23T15:00:37.082-06:00Anon 9:34: I'm not sure what offensive scheme ...Anon 9:34: I'm not sure what offensive scheme should be built around Brad Johnson, Jermaine Wiggins, Marcus Robinson, Travis Taylor, and Troy Williamson. And the next year, their top WR was Bobby Wade. That's my point: in Childress's early years, it was poor talent, not poor scheme. The Vikings simply didn't have the players that anybody SHOULD build an offense around, at least not in the passing game.<br /><br />Criticism of how Peterson has been used is fair, I think.pacifist vikinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02639283781758286098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-83848087548356018352010-11-23T10:46:40.107-06:002010-11-23T10:46:40.107-06:00AP is screwed under Childress. How many yards cou...AP is screwed under Childress. How many yards could he have rushed for in Pittsburgh?<br />Tribune today, FAvre almost got Sherman fired, and almost McCarthy but the GM stood by the coach.<br />He got Mangini fired in N.Y. Now Chilly.<br />His treatment by the Vikings is a big part of this years problems.<br />Even adults do not like a double standard and become resentful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-7895758272081951802010-11-23T09:34:14.154-06:002010-11-23T09:34:14.154-06:00I disagree with the point that the offensive schem...I disagree with the point that the offensive scheme was not poor. Childress refused to buuild an offense around the talent he had but instead made players adapt to his scheme regardless if that was playing to their strength. Too often he was trying to fit a square peg through a round hole.<br /><br />An example of where he failed his Adrian Peterson. With his lousy zone blocking scheme he turned AD into a home run hitter like Barry Sanders. Unlike Barry, AD has size and strength and should be ripping off more positive runs. Instead the zone blocking scheme which negates the size of our OL produces runs wih zero or negative yardage.<br /><br />If Adrian had a coach like Shanahan or Schottenheimer its scary to think what type of yardage he could have put up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-49673858201148085742010-11-23T01:32:53.369-06:002010-11-23T01:32:53.369-06:00There's no question that, ultimately, what kil...There's no question that, ultimately, what killed Childress was his inability to develop a QB through normal means. As you said PV, because he couldn't do that, he became reliant on a diva of a QB who makes all the rules for himself. As a result of that, everyone else on the team believed they could set the rules as well, and the wheels were in motion for Childress to completely lose this team. Which he did. Peterson, Rice, Berrian...they walked all over him this season. Remember Moss' shrug right before halftime against Green Bay, when Minnesota ran the clock out rather than try to get in field goal range? We all probably agreed with Moss, but it was disrespectful to show up the coach like that, and that was the type of culture that had been created. <br /><br />And I think it can all be traced back to Favre. Childress should have set a hard and fast deadline for Favre to show up by, and if he doesn't then we're moving on. Instead he allowed him to miss two training camps and all minicamps. He even picked him up at the airport, letting everyone know full well who was in charge, and it wasn't the head coach. Players notice stuff like this.<br /><br />When examining what went right last year as opposed to what went wrong last year, nobody seems to remember the ridiculously easy schedule the Vikings opened up with last season. They played Cleveland, Detroit, San Fransisco and St. Louis in 4 of their first 5 games. This easy schedule allowed Favre to treat the first couple weeks like preseason; remember how little he was throwing at first? This season, there was no warm up. The Vikings came out of the gate with the Super Bowl champion, then a tough Miami team, then a couple weeks later a good Jets team. Favre had to be on his game early, and he wasn't. People forget he wasn't on his game early last year either, but warm ups against hapless Cleveland and Detroit allowed him to ease into it. With no such "regular season pre-season," he got off to a bad start and never recovered. <br /><br />The biggest thing I want to see out of Frazier in these last six games in clock management. It will be impossible to tell what type of overall head coach he can be in 6 games to end the season, but we'll find out right away how he handles the clock, timeouts, challenges and 4th down/extra point decisions. This is what I'll be judging him on. I fully expect the team to play well for him, as he is respected and I think the defensive players will play hard to try and get him the full-time job. But I'm not going to judge him on wins and losses; I'm going to judge him on whether there are any clock management mistakes, and other fiascos that were all too prevalent during Childress' time. If there's a 12 men in the huddle penalty at the end of the game as Minnesota is in winning field goal territory, he should be automatically disqualified from being the full-time head coach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-2355901142875099252010-11-22T22:16:17.092-06:002010-11-22T22:16:17.092-06:00Oh, I'll watch: I just don't have the exci...Oh, I'll watch: I just don't have the excited anticipation that I usually have had. And if things go really bad, I might stop watching to go do one of life's activities that are worth something.<br /><br />I think Childress's challenge against New England should be legendary: a play in the middle of the field where there was no question at all that the ball never hit the ground. As my brother J-Rod said, there are challenges in Madden where you accidentally push the button that were better than that.<br /><br />And I'll again emphasize the connection between the QB struggles of Childress's first three years and the double standard/ preferential treatment Childress allowed Favre for his last two. Failure to fill the position in a conventional way basically left Childress reliant on Favre showing up in mid-August despite missing a lot of the work the other players were willing to put in. If Childress lost credibility with the players over that (it's possible/probable he lost it before that), his QB problems directly contributed.pacifist vikinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02639283781758286098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-78094529794745688162010-11-22T21:19:59.610-06:002010-11-22T21:19:59.610-06:00Coach always gets blamed. Not all his fault, but ...Coach always gets blamed. Not all his fault, but he did some of this to himself.<br />Sold out to get and keep Favre and gave him too much control. The team knew this and it was not popular.<br />Poor game time decisions. (Challenges, 2:00 drills, etc.)<br />Apparently not a popular guy with the players the past two years. Coincidence, that FAvre got special treatment?<br />I hope Frazier proves himself. If not, look for a big name caoch for Zigy.<br />Let AP run. God, it would be nice to see a enw formation and a toss to the outside once in awhile!<br />Unlike PV, I still watch. Looking to see who still wants to be here in the future. Watch to see who is good enough to be here in the future.<br />3-7 sucks, but maybe we are not that good.<br />Draft could be interesting with SOOOOOO many needs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com