tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post7792548594204843904..comments2024-03-28T02:23:44.367-05:00Comments on Pacifist Viking: Expectations of reactions, and reactions, to Favre's week one performancePacifist Vikinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16630996018868040440noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-91801876661291397082009-09-17T06:45:06.153-05:002009-09-17T06:45:06.153-05:00In a lot of ways the Idea of Favre has always been...In a lot of ways the Idea of Favre has always been entirely different than Actual Favre. The old Idea of Favre was this sandlot good ol' boy who threw countless tds with his boyish grin. The new idea is this aging gunslinger who can't escape the Big Error. So now when he manages somehow someway to avoid the Big Error its a victory in itself. "Well, what I'm impressed with is what he didn't do." or "Well now we see Brett Favre can manage a game." As if Brett Favre has never managed a game in his career. It's ridiculous. Even this "will he avoid the Big Decline" late in the year is based on really simplified causality. "Favre is Old, he Runs Down." But you've got a climate now when somebody doesn't trash Favre it's because of a naive bias.<br /><br />RKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-17675379318210480672009-09-16T13:01:31.056-05:002009-09-16T13:01:31.056-05:00Danzinski should lay off the homophobic slurs. To...Danzinski should lay off the homophobic slurs. Today is the fourth one I can think of (albeit also the mildest). Or I will sic Esera Tuolo on him. I otherwise enjoy his commentary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-50147503062993288692009-09-16T10:58:11.412-05:002009-09-16T10:58:11.412-05:00I really thought Favre's performance was great...I really thought Favre's performance was great. When he was called on to make some difficult throws, he did it with the kind of zip and quickness that I honestly have not seen out of a Vikings QB in awhile (most notably the long first down conversion to Percy). Even two of his incompletions to Sidney Rice (one where Sidney may have stayed in bounds and might have been worth a challenge if we still had one...sucks that we lost it on that fumble call which was a good challenge) looked real good. I'm excited if we can run the offense with a lot of dump offs and screens..because honestly getting the ball into the hands of AD, Chester, and Percy as much as possible sounds like a winning strategy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-31604616140883236042009-09-16T08:52:33.233-05:002009-09-16T08:52:33.233-05:00I, too, think the Packers are legitimately talente...I, too, think the Packers are legitimately talented and a serious Super Bowl threat. I just wonder how many times in the past a team coming off a 6-10 year (with the exception of bad years because of injuries) gets picked by a massive number of sportswriters to be very successful, and particularly to win its conference. I also wonder how often commentators give a break to a QB for losing close games, rather than (unfairly) claiming it's his fault for not willing the team to wins (the media now seems to adore Rodgers). I could be wrong, which is why I call it speculation with no evidence. <br /><br />I could also be biased: for years I've thought there was a pro-Green Bay sentiment among a lot of national commentators (because they like the fans, the city, the stadium, the history, the public ownership, even the weather. I acknowledge it too: the Packers have a distinct "culture"). For a long time the pro-Green Bay sentiment and pro-Favre sentiment were tangled up in one string. Now that they are separate, I see the pro-Favre string coming apart and the pro-Green Bay sentiment sticking.pacifist vikinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02639283781758286098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-82036772028094851982009-09-16T08:37:25.524-05:002009-09-16T08:37:25.524-05:00Excellent post. It seems like so many people writ...Excellent post. It seems like so many people write without really thinking about it. They just write what's expected, and they write as though they're responding to what's expected. Dead on.<br /><br />The five exclamation points about bloggers being awesome were a nice touch.<br /><br />Like the commenter above, I also have to disagree with the last point. I think the Packers are being treated optimistically because they lost a lot of close games last year, went 13-3 the year before, and Rodgers put on an impressive show. Also, the defense switch being handled by Dom Capers seems to be a point of attention, but I honestly don't expect their defense to be THAT much improved that quickly. They'll score a lot of fantasy points, but they won't smother opponents to the point of low yardage and point totals. Few without a stake in the division, I hope, would dispute that the Vikings are on top until proven otherwise. It's clearly MIN > GB > CHI > DET, right?Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-72531684221678911592009-09-16T07:44:23.138-05:002009-09-16T07:44:23.138-05:00great write-up...have to disagree on the last poin...great write-up...have to disagree on the last point. the number of positive predictions for packers among national writers has a lot to do with the top-to-bottom young talent green bay acquired. the vikes are the most talented team in the division (perhaps in the nfc and even the league) but the packers are young in the right places... i like how overall the division has improved in leaps and bounds. and lot of that has to do with the packers starting to catch up with the vikes and the bears finally getting a qb (cutler will be fine).Cianhttp://cianoday.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-67210695214647854462009-09-16T02:51:32.151-05:002009-09-16T02:51:32.151-05:00I'd say the topic of Favre has produced more b...I'd say the topic of Favre has produced more bad sportswriting and broadcast commentary over the past 20 years than any other NFL topic. It's like Favre is an antirationality device designed in a lab to reduce people working for media companies to intellects on par with my cat. She can't figure out that her reflection in the window at night isn't another cat, and the media types can't figure out that Favre is just a human being playing quarterback, with no supernaturally good or bad characteristics.<br /><br />What I saw on Sunday was guy with an ocean of experience and somewhat declining, albeit still decent physical talents, play a conservative game with teammates who he is still pretty unfamiliar with, while also recognizing that some of his teammates have exceptional talent. Unfortunately, guys with an ocean of NFL experience tend to not stay healthy for a whole season, so the Vikings and Favre will need to get lucky in that regard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-82475750658187072412009-09-15T21:09:01.654-05:002009-09-15T21:09:01.654-05:00I've also been noticing that the mainstream me...I've also been noticing that the mainstream media has started to turn on Favre. It's much more balanced now; he's no longer simply the gun-slinging southern boy who loves the game. We still hear that but we also hear more criticism about his flip-flopping and holding teams hostage.J'Rodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-74981467456095204172009-09-15T18:47:15.694-05:002009-09-15T18:47:15.694-05:00Thanks--it's fixed.Thanks--it's fixed.pacifist vikinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02639283781758286098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23140411.post-72063733404710634932009-09-15T17:26:18.180-05:002009-09-15T17:26:18.180-05:00PV/Joe:
The link to my post about Sunday's ga...PV/Joe:<br /><br />The link to my post about Sunday's game is actually a link to your post about Sunday's game.Darren Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07280352819585972328noreply@blogger.com